Host: Matt:
Well, hello everybody and welcome to the inaugural episode of Podcast Awesome where we chat about icons, design, tech, business, and of course nerdery with members of a fun and awesome team.


Host: Matt:
I'm your host, Matt Johnson, and in this podcast I catch up with Jory Raphael as we chat about the 2022 year end review and what you can expect to hear in the first season of Podcast Awesome, which will include our nerd show and tells where you get a chance to hear from members of the Font Awesome team and their eclectic nerdery, as well as the company culture that flows from our semi-annual company meetups, which we call the Snuggle, and much, much more. Thanks for joining us. Jory, the best way to spread icon cheer is by singing loud for all to hear. Happy New Year. We just are on the heels of our holiday break. Most of the Font Awesome team took a little bit of time off, and here we are in the beginning of January. This episode will probably air sometime in February, but how was your break?

Jory Raphael:
Fa la la la la! You full of icon cheer right now, Matt?

Host: Matt:
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Thank you for that rousing rendition.

Jory Raphael:
Can you autotune that please?

Host: Matt:
100%. Yeah, we'll get that in there for sure.

Jory Raphael:
My break was lovely. Yeah, as you said, we took some time off. A lot of folks at the team did, and it was just really great to not do much of anything for a little stretch of time. Played some video games, put together some puzzles, watched some movies, read some books, cleaned out some cubbies, took the dog for a walk. What else did I do, Matt? I slept a little bit, I ate a little bit, I did some year-end tax stuff, which was super, super exciting. What I did not do was sing loud for all to hear, because that is a skillset I do not have.

Host: Matt:
Nobody's going to want to hear me sing either. Yeah, we had a pretty similar experience. That's just kind of like the American way at Christmas time. You loosen the waistband and forget what day it is and shower, maybe not. Watch lots of movies. Well, my name is Matt Johnson, and I have the great honor of being the host of this podcast. Jory, I got to say that initially I didn't want to be the host. I was feeling a little bit nervous about it, but Travis Chase, one of the bosses says, "No, you should be the host." And let me tell you, I've actually had a really good time putting this together. It's been a great project, and I've found that I enjoy fiddling around with the technology and figuring out how to put this together, so it's been fun. So I'm the guy behind the media, the social media, and the blogs and a chunk of the web copy and all that stuff. So, here we are with Jory.

Jory Raphael:
Hello, I'm Jory Raphael. I am not the host of this podcast. I'm just joining Matt here for this. I will pop up I guess from time to time. I don't know, what am I? I guess I'm ostensibly the lead icon designer at Font Awesome and a principle designer I guess. But Matt, I will say the reason you have learned to love your new job as podcast host is because of all the power it gives you. You can record conversations with folks on the team, and then you can edit them and manipulate them to your maniacal whims. Choose to make us sound smart or choose to make us sound stupid, or sometimes both in the same sentence.

Host: Matt:
Well, Jory, you just make sure to keep everything in line and we'll make you sound real good. Don't you worry.

Jory Raphael:
Oh, phew.

Host: Matt:
We'll make you sound great.

Jory Raphael:
Phew. That takes a weight off my mind.

Host: Matt:
Yeah, so I thought it would be good for us to do a year-end review, and we did an email and a blog about this, but why don't we talk through it? We've been really busy at Font Awesome in 2022. We've done a lot of great stuff, and we've got some stuff planned for 2023, and I thought it'd be fun to go over some of that. But maybe before we get into that, we can actually talk about the issue at hand, which is our inaugural podcast here. Obviously with the intro, we're going to be talking about icons, design, tech, business, and of course a very strong emphasis on nerdery with members of the Font Awesome team.

We really wanted to focus on introducing the folks of the Font Awesome team. So with that in mind, we did the nerd show and tell, where we give folks a chance to talk a little bit about maybe some recent work that they've done and then a real focus on their personal nerdery outside of work. So as an example, we have these biannual meetups called the Snuggle, and we do actually our own episode about the Snuggle. And at the Snuggle, there's all kinds of nerdery at that. What are some of the nerdy interests that you see coming out of the biannual Snuggles that you enjoy?

Jory Raphael:
It's just really fun to hang out with everybody. We're a remote company, so we've found these semi-annual, biannual get togethers are really important for keeping the team connected and getting to know folks beyond the computer screen and beyond the day-to-day at Font Awesome. We try to do D&D games when we can during the Snuggles which are super fun. And you talk about the nerdery behind Font Awesome, and we have a lot of stuff that I think is baked into the DNA of the company. And Dungeons and Dragons certainly is. Star Wars is, and mechanical keyboards are. There are all sorts of things that we get to play around with and we talk about. And at the last Snuggle, we watched an episode of the And Or TV show together. And then, what else do we do? Also, we'll rent out a movie theater, and we'll go see movies together. So I don't know, they're just all sorts of little fun things that we get to do as a team, which make working here super fun.

Host: Matt:
Yeah. It's kind of like the glue. It's a team building thing. It helps people to build trust. It's not like a means to an end or anything, but it's more like when you can build trust with folks and you share in something that you're interested in and somebody has some excitement around something that they enjoy and you're inviting other people into that, it just creates a nice vibe. I think the result is that people get to know each other better, and it's easier to work together, because then you have another thing in common or something that you can talk about.

Jory Raphael:
Well, sure. You get to know common interests or little ideas spark up during these get togethers. Actually, in fact, one of the things we released towards the end of last year had its roots in the most recent Snuggle, which is the icon wizard that is on our site now. We've got a lot planned for it, but right now it's a pretty cool way to just take any Font Awesome icon and pretty easily add any modifier to it. So you can take our house icon and add a little circle plus to it or a slash to it, or even a little poop icon, little modifier to the corner.

So that was an idea that we've been percolating things around that whole subject for a while at Font Awesome. We've talked about it off and on, but then it really just took a couple people at this last Snuggle, sitting down and building a proof of concept and we're like, "Oh, this is fantastic." It's actually 90% of the way there for a beta release, and we put a little polish on it and released it. Had we not had that free time during the Snuggle to explore what we sometimes call snacktivities, little bite size pieces of work you can explore or play around with, that feature would not be out there today. So that's pretty cool.

Host: Matt:
The snacktivities are always geared towards usually fun side project stuff. And I was on the sidelines observing these conversations, and Mike and Ed were the primary guys driving that, and it was so fun just to watch the excitement and the fun and the funny side conversations that were informing what they were doing. And yeah, it was just really cool.

Jory Raphael:
The Font Awesome HQ, we're starting to bust at the seams when we all get together as the company grows, but so right now we're all spread out in this main room when we're working on little things. And I think Mike and Ed were around a little circular table and I was off in a corner in a little armchair. So there's just these conversations that are flying across the room and you'll pick up on like, "Oh wait, what are they talking about over there?" And you'll spark a little interest. Sometimes I think it's pretty funny how stuff gets done during those. It's almost like for me, because I work from home and it both makes me thankful that I don't work in an office because it is distracting and there's so much going on.

But on the flip side, it's this little, at least for me, condensed period of time where it's like, "All right, let's get all the crazy out right now. Let's butt in on conversations that are happening. Let's eavesdrop. Let's just walk over," and whatever it is, which is fun and it makes it a little bit unique and out of the ordinary and gives us all, I think, an excuse to set aside the day-to-day work at Font Awesome. We always say, "It's okay to get work done during this Snuggle, but that's not the important part." We really just want to take a break and honestly see what comes out of it. And I think some of our ideas for... The whole idea for the sharp icons that we released last year and our continual release icon this year came out of a Snuggle as well. It was a little bullet point that we put up on a whiteboard during a meeting. It's a fertile ground for ideas and exploration.

Host: Matt:
It is indeed. Indeed it is. So we have a whole episode in this season dedicated to the Snuggle where we talk about that in more depth, which is super fun. As I mentioned, we are really focusing on introducing folks from the team with a emphasis on nerdery. So I just had to go through some of the things that surfaced with people's very specific and nerdy interests. Mike talks a little bit about the marble machine X. Have you heard about this thing, that hand crank music machine?

Jory Raphael:
Oh yeah. No, I have. And he's showed me videos of it and it's pretty amazing. Yeah, it's really cool.

Host: Matt:
He created this hand crank music machine from scratch that drops all these marbles onto these pieces of the machine. It's this percussive instrument that plays several instruments at a time, and it's just crazy. A song might have 40 or 50,000 steel marbles cycling through, and because he built it by hand, he has to get all of the specifications just so that the timing is right. It's really pretty amazing. So Mike has kept tabs on that, and that's a really interesting story. Of course, we've talked about this, there's a lot of interest in D&D, and Ed drives that and is definitely very key to... He's like the DM in the Font Awesome sponsored D&D campaigns. And if I'm not mistaken, I think that there is an ongoing campaign among Font Awesome members that maybe has gone several years maybe. Does that sound about right?

Jory Raphael:
Yeah. Well, we actually started a new one recently at our last Snuggle. We started a new one because we had some new team members. But yeah, what's interesting about D&D for me is that Dungeons and Dragons in particular is something that I as a kid... So I grew up in rural Vermont. As a kid, it was very much 1980s Stranger Things esque situation where really there were people who were playing it who were in my class and whatnot. But my problem was I lived in the country, so I was on the periphery, and I would see them playing D&D or talking about it, and it really piqued my interest. And I went out and got a bunch of books and would explore it and was really, really into it. But I never played a game, never developed that little group where I could play. So it was always just an interest and I was aware of it for my entire life, and then I played my first game with Font Awesome.

Host: Matt:
Oh, that's so great.

Jory Raphael:
Yeah. And it was so fun. Funnily enough, I have a degree in performing arts, so I still do some acting and some sketch comedy and stuff, and it's just been a great little outlet for me when we do play to, I don't know, put on a character and delve into it. I'm probably a little bit more chaotic in terms of the things I try and do than some members of our team would like, and I'm learning, but...

Host: Matt:
You bring any  costumes with you to the Snuggle?

Jory Raphael:
I don't, but we do know someone on the team who does. Alex.

Host: Matt:
Oh yeah. Well, we went out and played some golf, and he was in that ridiculous... It basically was like a pirate's outfit.

Jory Raphael:
Yes, it was a full pirate outfit.

Host: Matt:
That was so great. A big feather on the hat, if I'm remembering right.

Jory Raphael:
Yes.

Host: Matt:
Yeah, man. Really owning it. That's some good stuff. Well, speaking of, we had Alex's nerd show and tell, and that one, as you would expect, was just lots of comedy because this guy... It's almost like his calling is to nerd out about so many subjects. And it's amazing in conversation at these Snuggles, somebody will bring up something in passing and he'll interject and say, "Well, I've been thinking about this." And he'll have a whole theory about almost any subject he can think of, where it's like, "How could you have put so much time and thought into this to where you could have this eloquent philosophy about this?" It really was pretty amazing. So, out of that conversation came his interest in traditional European martial arts and its connection to virtual reality. And he talks about, at some point, that he got tennis elbow using a long sword.

Jory Raphael:
Oh boy.

Host: Matt:
Yeah, so there's some good stuff.

Jory Raphael:
We have a few folks on the team who... They are just so smart that I think that their brains are running multiple processors at once, where they are able to focus on the day-to-day while also crunching these computational things in the background about whatever random subject it is. And it's amazing. That's what I love about nerdery in general, and if someone can speak with passion on a subject and it interests them immensely, even if I have no knowledge of it or I've never even considered it, it's just so interesting to listen to and to learn more and to get a secondhand high off of their interests and passion over it.
And I may have mentioned this in one of the other recordings you and I did. My daughter's band teacher at the concerts at this high school starts out every piece by going in a little bit of a deep dive about the composer and the musical style and all of that. And I don't know anything about it, but he speaks with such a passion and excitement about it that I just get jazzed every time he comes up and introduces whatever this marching song is they're all doing. And I'm just like, "Wow, that's super interesting." And it's not going to affect my day-to-day life in any other way other than that little moment of joy in the high school auditorium. So I love it.

Host: Matt:
Yeah, for sure. I love that, too. Mike and I were talking about similarly... We were talking about how there are a lot of folks on the team that are into building mechanical keyboards, and I think we all are fortunate to have our own keyboard because one of our snacktivities was Dave got us all these kits, and we built these keyboards together a couple Snuggles ago. And I really enjoy my keyboard, but we have a Slack channel where folks talk about all of the new keycaps that are coming out and how to change the feel and the sound of your keyboard. And like Mike, I'm not as deep into that, but I really enjoy my keyboard, but like you said, it's the contact high when you're watching other people really into what they're into. It's like, "Wow, they're really having fun." That's fun to watch them be so into that. I love that.

Jory Raphael:
So I love Legos, and when I first had kids, I played with them a lot with as a kid and then took a huge hiatus. And Legos, of course now in recent years, has been blowing up and having to do more adult style sets, and you can do flowers now and architecture and all this stuff. And you can see behind me that I have... Well, people listening can't, but you can, Matt, that I have a few Legos behind me, a little Voltron, and stuff like that. And I got back into it when my kids were little, and I started buying Lego sets for them. And I got to tell you, I've been eyeing those... Lego has these little... I'm spacing on the name of them right now, but you can get a little bakery or these little building sets that all interlock together, and they release new ones all the time.
And I was like, "Oh, that'd be really cool. This great little bookshop or detective agency you can build. And it's really an intricate build. It's so cool." And I keep thinking about buying one for myself, and I've gone so far as to buy one for myself. And it came to me and I was about to open it, and I was like, "If I open this and I put this together, I have started down a path that I'm not going to be able to back out from." And suddenly my office space is... I'm going to be like, "I am building a full freaking city here, and it's going to take up all my time." And I keep waffling between, "I know it would bring me so much joy, but I also worry about how all encompassing and all focusing it would be." So I have yet to... I pulled the trigger on it once, and then I quickly sent it back, but...

Host: Matt:
You did? You didn't even keep it?

Jory Raphael:
No, I sent it back and I got annoyed, because I had to pay a restock fee, but I knew. I know myself well enough that if I had started down that path, I don't know. I don't know what it is, but now talking about it, I really want to buy one.

Host: Matt:
Maybe we should get a counselor at the next Snuggle to make sure that we're all being responsible adults with our nerdery.

Jory Raphael:
Yeah.

Host: Matt:
It can take a dark turn if you're not careful. Why don't we talk a little bit about the '22 roundup and all of the great stuff that we got out the door and a little bit about what we've got planned for 2023?

Jory Raphael:
Sure.

Host: Matt:
So, the big one on the list of course would be that we launched Font Awesome Six.

Jory Raphael:
So yes, we officially released Font Awesome Six in February of 2022. And that was a little delayed, honestly. It was later than we had wanted to release it. But if y'all remember, there is a little thing that happened globally in 2020, so there are a few things that we had to consider as we battened down the hatches and worked through some things at Font Awesome. But yeah, we released Font Awesome Six in 2022, a bunch of completely redesigned icons, new styles. Along with that also came an entire new website design and look and feel. Great, very fun video that we created for it. We're all really proud of it. And it was funny because when we were putting together the list of things we had done in 2022, it was a little bit of a shock to me that we released Font Awesome Six, because we'd been working on it for so long, and we did so much in 2022 that to start the year off with such a big drop, it was pretty cool I think.

Host: Matt:
And we talk a little bit in the season of the podcast to our new icon designer. Well, new-ish. He's been with us six or eight months now, but Noah Jacobus, that was awesome to bring him on board. And he helped to get the whole Sharp family across the finish line, which was awesome.

Jory Raphael:
Yeah. Yeah, Noah is fantastic. Prior to him being here, I was pretty much in charge of all the icons, but it's great having someone else here who can nerd out on that very specific topic with me, because although we are ostensibly an icon company, we have a lot more developers than designers. And really we're a technology company, and we build the tools to serve these icons. So it was a little lonely for me for a while there. And so now, Noah and I can chat about leon groups and Bézier curves and pixel grids and all that jazz. At least know what each other's talking about.

Host: Matt:
Yeah, and that's one of the things, too, that actually we didn't talk about with the podcast is that he helped to inform the switch to Figma.

Jory Raphael:
Yeah. When we made the decision, he had not joined the team yet, but he and I had been talking for a while and he'd been promoting it on his own using Figma for Icon Design and was following along. I chatted with him, and I took the leap with a little bit of early guidance from him and was able to make the full switch on our own for the beginnings of version six, which is pretty cool.

Host: Matt:
So we go into a little bit of a deeper dive on that in one of the podcasts where you guys talk about some of the key reasons why we switched to Figma. And folks will definitely want to be keeping an eye out for that episode. This year, we also gave people the opportunity to blast their boredom and play Space Awesome. So Ed Emmanuel, this is actually a really cool project, and this is a really good example of how we value ongoing learning for folks on the team. And we work on these six week sprints, or I guess we call them splits, and then we have a two-week cool down, and we talk about this on the podcast a little bit. But in the two-week cool down, we might get back to dealing with bugs or just little things that weren't completely buttoned up, but we also have a chance a lot of the time to do some self-development and learning. And this was an awesome opportunity for Ed.

He talks about how he learned Vue.js, and since he was a kid, he had this interest in... He always wanted to do a text-based game sort of like Oregon Trail. So he took Font Awesome icons and did a space western type themed game, which is really cool. And in the process, he learned Vue.js. So we talked to him a little bit about that. So if folks want to check this out, they can go to spaceawesome.io. Give that a play, let us know what you think. That was super fun.

Jory Raphael:
If you go to spaceawesome.io and before you start your game, there's a little blurb about who you are and what you're doing here, and there's a spaceship name. And if you click on that spaceship name, it swaps out. And then, your adventure will include members of the Font Awesome team on your spaceship. Now, there are also a ton of other Easter eggs throughout the game, so that's just the first of many that you can discover. Ed spent a lot of time on it, and it's pretty fun. And I think an example, like you said, of just one, he started work on it during the cool down, but just exploring a new idea. And there's room for that at Font Awesome which is pretty sweet.

Host: Matt:
We've talked about how you can class up your project with Font Awesome Sharp icons. We've talked a little bit about that. So we have launched so far solid, and has regular come out at this point yet? Solid and sharp regular?

Jory Raphael:
No. As of this recording, we've released Sharp solid, and probably very close to or not long after this episode will air, Sharp regular will come out. And then, we'll continue to release all the other styles throughout the first part of this year, which is pretty cool.

Host: Matt:
Yeah. Tell us a little bit about how might folks want to use Sharp icons in their design? How does it stand out from the other icons?

Jory Raphael:
We worked hard to make a default icon set, I should say. So the Font Awesome classic solid is just a go-to. It works in a lot of situations, but like a typeface, you may have different needs for different projects, so maybe you're working for a financial institution, or you're working for something that's a little more buttoned up, or a little more classy or something. Then, that's a great time to maybe use the sharp icons. Or you're working on something that's a little bit more fun and loosey-goosey or airy, you might want to use our classic light icons.
So the whole idea is that we provide you with these different styles of icons so that it fits with the project you're working on. And then, something that's pretty cool I think about Font Awesome is that you are not only limited to these styles that we've created. So we hope that we provide a lot of value in what we offer upfront, but we also allow for custom icon upload. So if you have your own icon set or an icon set you love that someone else has created, you can just go ahead and upload those to a Font Awesome kit, and then serve them the same way you would serve existing Font Awesome icons, but with your own stamp on them. So we're attacking it from two different angles, I think.

Host: Matt:
Another headline here is... This is very exciting news. Shoelace joins Font Awesome. Corey Levesque's open source web component library, Shoelace. We've been a fan of that for quite some time, and it might just be the biggest and best web component library out there, whether it's open source or not. And we're super excited that Shoelace joined forces with Font Awesome. And we'll definitely have more to share about that in the future, but is there anything that you can say about that? I'm putting you on the spot.

Jory Raphael:
So yeah. We think Shoelace is really cool, and it's very, very useful. And in a lot of ways we think that web components are pretty great next steps for the internet in general and a pretty useful way to help build websites. And one of the things we do at Font Awesome is that we really want to champion open source, and Font Awesome has its roots in open source. The original icon set and typeface that Dave released way back when was open source, and Font Awesome continues to be open source. We have a pro offering, which we talk about a lot which we think is great, but we have over 2000 icons that are free and open source, and you can use them however you want to use them.

And we always will have those, and it's core to our DNA at Font Awesome. And so in Corey and in Shoelace, we see a little bit of a kindred spirit. Bringing Shoelace under the Font Awesome... Well, umbrella I don't think is the way to say that, but using the same ethos we've used with Font Awesome to shepherd Shoelace along and to see what the next steps are there is pretty exciting to us. And as you said, we'll have more to share on that as the year progresses, but for right now we are supporting Corey in continuing to work on Shoelace and it's super, super fun.

Host: Matt:
Another one of the great releases that we've had recently is the Icon Wizard so that folks can wield near infinite icon magic with the Icon Wizard. So you can add a modifying element like a circle plus, a slash, or even a poop to nearly any Font Awesome icon. And this is one of the snacktivities we talked about that Ed and Mike worked on at a recent Snuggle, which is pretty exciting. And that allows for... It's an absurd amount of icons, because we have... How many different modifiers are there right now?

Jory Raphael:
We started with 20 or so, 23 maybe, different modifiers and as you said, anything from a plus to a slash to a poop to a little pencil. We had a few icons that have been added to them already, and we would get requests for, "Could we add a plus to this icon?" And it got to the point where we would have hundreds of thousands of icons if we included all these different variations of a single icon. And we decided that instead of manually building that hundred thousands, why don't we let people build the ones that they need on the fly? So that was the roots of it. We've been talking about different ways to modify Font Awesome icons for a while. And I think I can say this here, but we had a project proposal that we've been floating around for a while called Farts, and that's an internal code name for Font Awesome reusable tidbits.

Host: Matt:
Acronym.

Jory Raphael:
Yeah, a little code name acronym for Font Awesome reusable tidbits. So in the early stages of the Icon Wizard, we kept talking about the Farts feature and how we could build this thing. And we got pretty far in the process without actually having a name, and I think we even just decided to call it the Icon Wizard mere moments before we sent the email and launched the beta service. This isn't going anywhere. It's just, we often will call things that... I'll attribute that to Brian because Brian comes up with these awesome names, and they're very fun. I don't know, maybe we should have launched it under that name. It might have had some more legs. I think it's a little interesting that we partnered with the United Nations.

Host: Matt:
It is cool. It's very cool.

Jory Raphael:
In 2022, we also collaborated with the UN Office of the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, which already had their own icon set, these humanitarian icons that help describe crises around the world and things that are going around. Disasters and situations where people might need relief aid. Pretty cool set. And we worked with them, collaborated with them to take those existing icons and bring them into Font Awesome and redesign them within the Font Awesome style. And then, multiple styles. So their current icons are a little bit more akin to our solid icons style-wise, but then we also designed them in the regular style, the light style, the thin style, duotone, and now all in the Sharp style as well. One of the cool things about that is that the solid style, just like the humanitarian icons that they offer, is completely free and open source.

So you can use those using Font Awesome technology just like our other icons. And it was an interesting project to work on for me specifically, because there's some subjects that are pretty tough when you talk about things that need aid throughout the world. So some of the icons that we were designing were not ones you'd typically think to include in an icon set that's widely available. It was a challenge that I was happy to take on, and it was both eye-opening and it felt a little bit like some important work to get done and to offer folks.

Host: Matt:
Yeah, it had some levity to it. And those are free to all users, correct?

Jory Raphael:
Yeah, the solid style is free. They're open source. And then, they're also available in our other styles if you have a need for them.

Host: Matt:
So we're just getting started. That's 2022, but we've got some pretty cool stuff coming up in 2023, which includes, of course, this podcast, which we have talked about at length. We're really excited to see these episodes go out and give folks a chance to meet the Font Awesome team and get to know us a little bit. So, there are some things coming up for 2023 that we've maybe got in the works. What can you tell folks about that?

Jory Raphael:
We have a couple pretty wacky fun projects that we are working on right now, but from a customer perspective and from a Font Awesome what's up next and I think by the time this episode is out, we will actually have released something that's really cool, which is kit download. Right now with the Font Awesome kit, you can serve icons using the kit, but there's no way to download them. So you can upload your custom icons and serve them alongside Font Awesome icons. But you can't take that kit that you've built and download that and self-host it or use it however else you want.
So that is coming now. That'll be out soon, which is really cool. And then, we have some more requested features coming to kits very shortly after that. We're going to be doing some cool stuff. You're going to be able to do more things with your icons. Maybe there's going to be some more icons coming, maybe there's going to be some ways to do more things with the icons that you already have and those that you have in the future and it's super vague, but let me say this. I'll say this succinctly, Matt. We did a lot in 2022. We're going to do even more in 2023. Kaboom.

Host: Matt:
That's what it's all about. So 2022 was a great year for us. 2023 looks like there's a lot of great stuff in the hopper. Jory, thanks for taking a few minutes to talk with us about all the great stuff going on at Font Awesome.

Jory Raphael:
Oh hey, thanks Matt. And hey, just as we close out here, I just want to say that it has been pretty fun watching you take the reins of this here podcast. I'm very excited for this to be launched. I'm excited to see the little podcast artwork show up in my podcast feed. I'm excited for all that is to come.

Host: Matt:
Well folks, I too am really excited about this season of the podcast and giving you, dear listeners, a peek into the world of Font Awesome. A special thanks to Jory for coming on the show, and if you like what you've heard, please subscribe to Podcast Awesome wherever you get your podcasts. This podcast was produced and edited by yours truly, Matt Johnson. The theme song was composed by Ronnie Martin, and audio mastering was done by Chris Enns at Lemon Productions.